[Dragonhope]

Note: Do not Power Level a craft. It will only hurt you as well as other crafters in the long run.


This is the skillpath I wish that I had taken...but with no one to show me the way, I lost a ton of gil by experimenting. Then again, I made a ton of gil on some things which doesn't make as much gil now (aka Lizard Jerkins ).

Please note that prices may vary from server to server as well as from the time this guide/journal was written to the current time. I will not be held responsible if you fail to look at alternate paths that might not be listed here as well as those here for a cheaper skillpath. With that said...enjoy the guide I suppose.


0-2:
Sheep Leather: Sheepskin + Windurstian Tea Leaves + Distilled Water + Dark Crystal

Save them. You'll won't be gaining much but you'll lose quite a lot of time (or even gil if you buy them later).

2-4:
Sheep Wool: Sheepskin x2 + Wind Crystal

If you have clothcraft up to the level, you can turn these into Wool Threads. Otherwise, you can sell them off for profit if you buy the skins from Guild NPC or farm them.

4-7:
Rabbit Mantles: 5 Rabbit Hides + Grass Thread + Earth Crystal

I highly recommend you farm for your rabbit hides with a level 15+ Thief. They drop like candy and you can easily have several stacks in only a few hours!

7-11:
Solea: Sheep Leather x2 + Wind Crystal

Desynth them afterwards to try and save on materials. Try to have lightning moghancement if you can for best results. If you didn't save your sheep leather or don't have enough, you can try making Lizard Cestis at skill 7 if you want.

Alternate 7-14:
Fishing Gloves: Lizard Skin x2 + Sheep Leather + Earth Crystal

If these make profit on your server and you don't mind taking a slower route, I highly recommend this route. Otherwise, the Lizard Mantle might be cheaper.

Alternate 7-14:
Lizard Mantle: Lizard Skin + Lizard Molt + Grass Thread + Earth Crystal

I don't have much experience with this recipe but it might prove cheaper if the price of Sheep Leather is higher then Lizard Skins and Lizard Molts. Also the supply of Lizard Molts might make this recipe a bit harder to work with as well.

Summary 0-10:
First, make Sheep Wool (2 Sheepskins + Wind crystal) or Sheep Leather (Windurstian Tea Leaves + Distilled Water + Sheepskin + Dark Crystal). Sheep Leather will take you to skill level 2 only but I suggest you make it and keep all the leather you make. Then from 2-4, make Sheep Wool and sell the stacks off for some gil return. After that, gather some Yagudo Bead necklaces and break them down into Grass Threads* (a stack or two might be enough). Now take earth crystals and start killing rabbits/hares outside in Ronfaure. When you get 5 rabbit hides, use them to make Rabbit Mantles (5 Rabbit Hides + Grass Thread + Earth Crystal) until your skill reaches 7. Now is the time to use all those Sheep Leather you've been saving up. Use them to make Soleas (2 Sheep Leather + Wind Crystal). This will result in some loss if you buy the Sheepskins or Sheep Leathers. This will work till skill level 10-11. The test for removing the cap at this level is a Rabbit Mantle.

Alternative recommended by Trema:
Make Vagabond Gloves and Boots from 0-10.

My own comment about it:
This is a little slower way raise skill but more profitable then what I did once they sell. It works best if people on your server actually know how useful the Vagabond set is at low levels.

Note: If you still have Sheep Leather left over, don't sell them. Keep reading to find out why.

11-17:
Lizard Cesti: Lizard Skin + Cesti + Earth Crystal

Make these for only a few skill levels (maybe 13 or 14) and then start on the Dhalmel Leathers. If you can, mule these to save money later.

Alternate 11-19:
Lizard Jerkin: Lizard Skin x3 + Sheep Leather + Earth Crystal

If you can get Lizard Skins for 500 gil and make your own Sheep Leather, this recipe should be profitable (assuming it sells for 3000 or more). I not only used this recipe as a bridge into Dhalmel Leather but because it was more profitable at the time, I made it all the way to skill 19 before making the Dhalmel Leather.

11-21:
Dhalmel Leather: Dhalmel Hide + Windurstian Tea Leaves + Distilled Water + Dark Crystal

A lot of failures at skill 11 but possible to make it. Also for future references, i'll just list the type of hide/skin used in making the leather as all recipes to make any type of leather is the same.

Optional Step 15-22:
Leather Ring: Dhalmel Leather + Wind Crystal

If you want, you can convert your Dhalmel Leathers into Leather Rings for more skill. But be prepared to take a loss. You can also try desynthing the Leather rings afterwards to get the hide back.

Summary 10-20:
At this point, if you want to gain skills fast, you'll be losing quite a bit of money. You'll begin working with Lizard Skins now. I believe at this point, you can make Fishing Gloves or Fishing Boots. You can make these and sell them off on the AH while gaining skills to pay for the Lizard Skins you bought. They should take you into range of making Lizard Jerkins. If you have any sheep leather left over from before, you can easily make some Lizard Jerkins (3 Lizard skins + Sheep Leather + Earth Crystal) till skill level 20. If you want, you can sell these off on the AH to make a small profit or desynth them using a Lightning Crystal and hope to get your Lizard skins (or sheep leather) back. The test for this level was a Lizard Cesti.

Alternative (thanks to Kletian999 and ninvampire): Make Lizard Cestis (Lizard Skin + Cesti) until you can make Dhalmel Leather.

My comment: This is cheaper then making Lizard Jerkins but as Kletian999 said, there might be a little loss. Lizard Jerkins actually sell at a decent rate to other players but since you'll be competing with a lot of other crafters now, making the Lizard Cestis might be a better alternative even if you lose some gil in the process.

Note: You might be able to gain skills from breaking down the Lizard Jerkins as well but it is quite risky. You have a hgih chance of losing the Jerkin altogether.

22-29:
Sandals: Dhalmel Leather + Sheep Leather + Wind Crystal

Only make these until skill 24 or 25. Feel free to sell them or desynth them as you desire as there's not all that much profit here. They're just fillers till you can make Parchments at a decent rate.

Alternate 22-25:
Seer's Pumps: Wool Thread x2 + Cotton Cloth x2 + Sheep Leather + Earth Crystal

If the recipe is profitable for you, this is a great skillpath to work with. Try and sell it off slowly and in small amounts to prevent the market from getting flooded. This needs Clothcraft leveled up though.

22-31:
Parchment: Sheep Leather + Rolanberry + Dark Crystal

If you buy the rolanberries at the vendor in Jeuno, this recipe will be even more profitable. Parchments sell quite well on the AH as they're used for the Bard Quest as well as when making most of the instruments for a Bard.

Summary 20-30:
Here, you get a big break. Dhalmel Hides cost about the same price as Lizard Skins but you can gain skills for using up less hides. What you do is make the Dhalmel Hides into Dhalmel Leather (of course). But now, you use these Dhalmel Leathers to and turn them into Leather Rings (Dhalmel Leather + Wind Crystal) to further level your skill. Make these until they stop giving you skill raises. At this point, you'll be able to make Sandals. Make these and sell them back to the guild to take as little a gil loss as possible. This should take you to 30. I think the test item was Dhalmel Mantle (just buy it from the AH since it's cheaper that way).


28-35:
Ram Leather: Ram Skin + Normal Leather Recipe.

Although using a Willow Log instead of a Windurstian Tea Leaf will take you to 36 with the Ram Leathers, it's really not worth it. Save the leathers by the way.

35-43:
Waistbelt: Ram Leather x2 + Grass Thread + Wind Crystal

At the time I was making these, they were making me some money since I made my own Ram Leather. I sold them to the NPC at a profit.

Alternate 35-39:
Wolf Gorget: Wolf Hide + Cotton Thread + Earth Crystal

This might prove to be cheaper/less of a loss if Ram Leather prices are higher then 1500 each to make/buy. Availability of Wolf Hides may vary though.

Summary 30-40:
You should still be able to make Sandals at this level. You can try making shoes if you want but that needs some weaving for more successes. But keep checking the advisor (advanced image support person) to see when they say you're able to make Parchments (Sheep Leather + Rolanberry + Dark Crystal). When you're able to make Parchments, you're free to sell of any Dhalmel Leather you've made so far and concentrate on making these. You can get Rolanberries for 120-150 gil each in Upper Jeuno item shop (as well as some other NPC stores). You can then sell these for some good gil since Parchments are needed in order to complete the Bard Flag quest. You can keep making Parchments until they stop giving skill raises or start making Ram Leather after a while. If you don't mind hunting for the rams (Level 25+ to beat them solo), you can make even more profit out of these then any other recipe so far. I recommend sticking with the Parchments for now though. Also, if you're more worried about raising your skill then making money, save any ram leathers you make at this point. The test was a Magic Belt I think.

43-49:
Ram Mantles: Ram Skin + Wool Thread + Ice Crystal

You should desynth them afterwards to try and get the wool thread back. This way you save more gil from not having to buy the threads again. Of course sometimes you'll only get the skin back but that's ok too. This is not a profitable stage by the way.

Alternate 43-44:
Cuir Trousers: Ram Leather x2 + Beeswax + Leather Trousers + Water Crystal

Save these up for later as you'll need them to make Raptor Trousers. If you can, try to make your own Ram Leathers and Beeswaxes. You can easily buy the Leather Trousers in the armor shops.

49-52:
Himantes: Lizard Cesti + Raptor Skin + Earth Crystal

If you saved those Lizard Cesti's earlier, now's the time to use them. The main problem with this recipe is finding the Lizard Cestis in stock. But this is MUCH cheaper then Raptor's Mantle or other recipes around this point.

Alternate 49-55:
Moccasins: Dhalmel Leather + Linen Cloth + Raptor Skin + Earth Crystal

If you didn't save the Lizard Cestis or you don't have any more in supply, you can make this recipe. If you want, you can sell these off slowly on the AH for profit since it's used in WHM AF boots quest.

Summay 40-50:
If you still have the Ram Leathers you've been making, you can turn them into Waistbelts (2 Ram Leather + Grass Thread + Wind Crystal). You can sell these back to the guild shop or NPC (whichever pays more at the time) and make some gil back as well as skill gains. I believe you can break these down back into Ram Leather as well but I didn't bother. Instead, use the money you make selling these off to buy more Ram Skins and make more Waistbelts. They'll only take your skill level to 43 though. From here until skill level 49, you can make Ram Mantles (Ram Skin + Wool Thread + Ice Crystal). I recommend you break them down with a Lighting Crystal as they don't sell well at all (To an NPC or to other players). This way, you might be able to save yourself a Wool Thread as well as maybe gain skill from it. At 49 begins the Raptor Skin stage. If you have Treasure Hunter (1 or 2) and time, you can kill off Raptors in Meriphataud Mountains (level 30+ if you want to stand a good chance) to get Raptor skins. Make Himantes (Lizard Cesti + Raptor Hide) or Moccasins (Linen Cloth + Dhalmel Leather + Raptor Hide). The Himantes is easier to make but you lose more then you would if you make Moccasins. It might also be a good idea to raise your weaving a bit to make your own Linen Cloths at this point. This will save you a LOT of money. The test at this level might've been Cuir Bouilli (I really don't keep track of these >.>).

52-61:
Tiger Leather: Tiger Hide + Normal Leather Recipe

Save them if you can. Sell them if you want.

Alternate 49-54:
Raptor Trousers: Raptor Skin x2 + Cuir Trousers + Earth Crystal

If you made some Cuir Trousers earlier or don't mind making your own Cuir Trousers, this recipe will save you more gil. (Thanks to Nemes for finding this one.)

Note: You can make other Raptor gears too if there's a market for them on your server.

Summary 50-60:
Continue making Moccasins until skill level 52-55. From here on, make make Black Tiger Leathers. You can turn the Tiger Leathers into Hard Leather Rings for more skill gains. This will take you to 60 easily. The test for here is the Raptor Jerkin.

61-62:
Hard Leather Ring: Tiger Leather + Wind Crystal

You can sell these or desynth them. Not much else to say about this. Save any extra leathers if you can as well.

62-69:
Beak Jerkin: Cockatrice Skin x2 + Sheep Leather + Earth Crystal

I suggest only making these until skill 64 or 65. The gil you'll be spending on this will be about the same as the Coeurl Leather recipes. But you'll get a lot of failures for Coeurl Leather early on so it's a good idea to use this as a filler.

62-71:
Coeurl Leather: Coeurl Hide + Normal Leather Recipe

Save these up as well. There never seem to be enough hides to skill through here fast so feel free to try to hunt for a bunch yourself.

Summary 60-70:
You can make Hard Leather Rings from the Tiger Leather up to 62 so you don't need to worry yet. But after this, things start to pick up in pricing. Unless you hunt for your own Coeurl Hides or don't mind spending 2-3k on them, you might want to make Beak Jerkins till skill level 69. However, if you do decide to take the path of Coeurl Hides, don't sell the Leathers (unless you don't mind gaining skill slower). Use the Leathers to make Coeurl Cestis from around skill level 64 or so. The test for this level is Battle Boots.

71-72:
Coeurl Cesti: Cesti + Coeurl Leather + Earth Crystal

Sell these off to the NPC as they sell slowly on the AH (if at all). Save any leftover Coeurl Leathers as well.

72-79:
Tiger Jerkin: Tiger Leather x2 + Sheep Leather + Earth Crystal

Mix this recipe up with making Coeurl Gorgets and Manticore Leathers. They sell rather slowly but for a profit on the AH. I just sell mine off to the NPC since it's not worth the time/slots I lose.

Alternate 72-75:
Tiger Mantle: Tiger Hide + Wool Thread + Ice Crystal

This might be cheaper if you make your own wool thread. Thanks go to Reli for spotting this one.

Alternate 72-79:
Coeurl Gorget: Coeurl Hide + Cotton Thread + Earth Crystal

Just mix it in with the Jerkins and Leathers.

72-80:
Manticore Leather: Manticore Hide + Normal Leather Recipe

Save em up. You'll be needing them.

Summary 70-80:
This set of levels was a little tricky since I was experimenting a lot. The cheapest way to get close to 80 during this time was to make Tiger Jerkins (can profit if sold on AH). There was less of a loss if you made your own Tiger Leather of course. However, i've noticed that making Manticore Leather, was giving me better skill gains. It might've been the day I would synth on maybe but if you want to skill gain faster, you might want to go with Manticore Leathers. However, due to the difficulty of Manticores, there might not be all too many hides up for grabs. Another recipe that proved to be useful for a while was Coeurl Gorgets. I pretty much mixed together the three to get up to 80 with making only Manticore Leather from 79-80. Tiger Jerkin and Coeurl Gorget cap at skill 79 while Manticore Leather caps at 80. The test for this level was Tiger Gloves.

80-88:
Coeurl Gloves: Cuir Gloves + Coeurl Leather + Earth Crystal

Only recommended if you plan on making the Cuir Gloves yourself or have someone else make them for you. Save these to turn into Ogre Gloves.

Alternate 80-83:
Air Solea: Light Soleas + Lizard Molt + Wind Crystal

Very little profit but still possible to make profit from these if you sell on the AH.

88-89:
Ogre Gloves: Coeurl Gloves + Manticore Leather + Earth Crystal

Sell them off to the NPC or on the AH but doesn't seem to sell too well on the AH.

Alternative 80-85:
Coeurl Mantle: Coeurl Hide + Wool Thread + Ice Crystal

If you tend to desynth your own Wool Threads, this might be a cheaper recipe until skill 85. If possible, try this up to 85 before starting on Coeurl/Ogre Gloves.

Alternate 80-89:
Coeurl Jerkin: Coeurl Leather x2 + Sheep Leather + Earth Crystal

More expensive then the Coeurl Gloves...but since Coeurl Leathers are easier to find in mass, some of you might prefer this path. They don't sell too well on the AH on my server so I vendored any I made.

Summary 80-90:
If you're not comfortable with taking some losses at first, I recommend you make the Air Soleas until 82 or 82 (or even 83) first. I got sick of making these near 82 because they sold SOOO slowly. I got lucky and had a shellmate around skill 35ish make a bunch of these (so they can gain skill as well) for me to turn into Coeurl Gloves. If you can't find anyone, it'll be slow and you might prefer using the Coeurl Jerkin method instead. At 89, you can start making the Tiger Masks or whatever happens to cheap and/or profitable at this stage for you. Test for this was Coeurl Mask.


89-91:
Errant Pigaches: Rainbow Thread + Velvet Cloth + Undead Skin + Ram Leather x2 + Earth Crystal

This is what I used to get from 89-91. If the synth is not profitable or the least loss with your current market, you can try farming the Undead Skins to save some gil. You can also farm Spider Webs and find a Clothcrafter to turn them all into Rainbow Thread if it's too expensive on the AH. Also note that if there aren't too many of these up for sale, you CAN and SHOULD raise the price to a point where it makes profit for you. These need Clothcraft as a sub craft so try to have that leveled if you want to use this recipe.

89-92:
Desert Mantle: Grass Thread + Yowie Skin x2 + Earth Crystal

This is another recipe to consider from 89-92. If the supply of Yowie Skins are plentiful on your AH, you can try making these for skill too. They don't seem to sell all that well from what i've noticed though so you might be taking a bigger loss.

89-93:
Austere Hat: Rainbow Thread + Sheep Leather + Ram Leather + Yowie Skin + Velvet Hat + Earth Crystal

I didn't attempt this recipe at all for the same reason as the Desert Mantle. At the time I was skilling, the Yowie Skins were overpriced and didn't have many in stock. This needs Clothcraft support as well so if you have your sub crafts up to date, this is another recipe to consider.

89-94:
Cardinal Vest: Steel Sheet + Gold Thread + Ram Leather + Tiger Leather x 2 + Beeswax + Manticore Lth. x 2 + Water Crystal

This is a pretty extensive recipe and is a huge loss on Midgardsormr but the materials are a lot easier to come by then Wyvern Skins. If you've got friends that work with the materials needed for this recipe, ask them if you can buy from them (thanks a bunch Skeematic, Odangoatama and Delphyne) for a lower price. This synth requires Smithing and Clothcraft as support crafts so have those leveled.

94-96:
Sha'ir Gages: Gold Ingot + Gold Thread + Garnet + Tiger Leather + Velvet Cloth + HQ Bugard Skin + Earth Crystal

This recipe needs high level Goldsmithing sub so might not be for those that don't want to raise Goldsmithing up. If however, you DO have Goldsmithing up, this recipe is quite nice from 94 to 96. Just make it slowly and sell one or two at a time to keep from flooding or you'll only screw yourself over.

89-95:
Tiger Mask: Tiger Hide x2 + Wyvern Skin + Wool Thread + Ram Leather + Ice Crystal

This can be the cheapest recipe or the most expensive recipe to use to skill up at this point. It all depends on how readily available the Wyvern Skins are and at what price. This also needs NO support crafts so you can use this recipe to take your skill to 95 from 89 and skip some of the others recommended.

93-100:
Panzer Mask: H. Q. Coeurl Hide x2 + Wyvern Skin + Wool Thread + Ram Leather + Ice Crystal

This is pretty much the same as the Tiger Mask recipe but the finished product might sell a bit better. Please note that both recipes use Hides and not Leathers.

*Will post alternatives from 95ish to 100 if I make them.

Note: All hides/skins into leather recipes are pretty much the same. You can replace Windurstian Tea leaves with Willow Logs if you want, but I find this to be more expensive.

Hope this has been helpful. I also know that this is not complete and there's quite a few mistakes i've probably made. Anyone able to help, feel free to make a post so I can edit this appropriately.

*This will take your weaving to 2 or 4 which isn't too bad.

Note: Do not Power Level a craft. It will only hurt you as well as other crafters in the long run.

[Marklar]

damn nice job

[curseddestroyer]

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[Dragonhope]

Bump upon request.

Hopefully this will help out the people who are taking up leatherworking.

*becomes dizzy from that huge line of smilies*


PS: If you dont want to scroll from side to side, I suggest copying and pasting it onto notepad or something for ease of use.

[PlayingForFun]

is there a way to block curseddestroyers post, its his line of smiles that are forcing us to scroll side to side, stupid graphics and smileys don't wrap like text

Cursed, please format your post and cut some smileys!

[Dragonhope]

Pleease edit it. For my sanity if not for yours >.>

Maybe I should copy and paste that in a seperate thread of it's own...

[asdf]

nice work

[Dragonhope]

Thanks. If anyone has an alternative recipe they used that's cheaper or more profitable then the one I recommended, feel free to point it out. I'll add it on as an alternative or change it in the guide depending on how cheap/profitable it is.

PS: Thanks for the smiley edit. By the time I got my computer back, he had done the smiley thing already >.>

[James]

wish someone wud do this for goldsmithing >.<

[Trema]

Beautiful!

Some things you might want to consider in the 0-10 range though, are vagabond boots and gloves. They aren't worth a lot, but you get have minimal loss from making them. I cornered the market on those on Siren for a while before others caught on.

[Dragonhope]

I can try bugging Temis or Solidsnake to tell me how they did their goldsmithing and post it here if you want me to...

Thanks Trema. Are you ok with me adding my comments on like that or do you want me to take it off? If you want, I can quote you instead as well. Let me know your preferance.

[Trema]

It's all good. Do whatever you think is best. ^^

[motoh]

What about logistics?
Where do you find it best to accumulate sheepskins, or is the AH worth the expense?
Making sheep wool rather than skins leaves you dry on materials at first, but does it give enough profit to pay for leather? You save on dark crystals.
Dark crystals... aargh. how do you keep a good stock of them?

There's my barrage. ^^;

[Dragonhope]

I'll answer those questions seperately and add later if enough people want me to.

The best way to accumulate sheepskins is to kill the sheep in East/West Ronfaure (West has more) yourself. The fastest way however, is to buy it directly from the guild. This might be hard depending on how many people buy it from here just to sell it for more on the AH on your server but this is usually the fastest way i've found.

As for Dark Crystals, I usually take a fairly low level character (4-10 or so) and kill the mushrooms in Ronfaure or inside the cavern in Ghelsba Outpost. After level 10, you can kill the Grass Funguars in La Theine to gain pretty good exp (for that level) as well as Dark Crystals. Just make sure you have Signet cast. If you have friends who are willing to help, you can form parties to hunt the mushrooms which in turn allows more Dark Crystals to be obtained.

I usually prefer buying 2k per stack of Dark Crystals but their prices have rose to 3k per stack on my server. But hunting them isn't as hard as people would think...you just need to know where to look.

[Kletian999]

Acutally, once you are strong enough Konscaht Highland is a great place for sheep hunting. I would suggest making wool from 0-4 as all the ingrediants are easy to farm and you can sell wool for good profit.
Definately rabbit mantles till 7, (which is funny cause rabbit mantles are the level 8 test), then get your hands on a bunch of sheeps leather to make and break Soleas.
Farm lizard skins if you can, buy Cesti from the weapon store or guild and sell lizard cesti to guild to keep losses low.
Around 13 or so, the advanced guy will clear you for Dhamel leather, I recommend it highly! Dhamels drop hides very often and the receipe to tan the leather is very easy (do on lightday with support for best results). All in all I only had 2 failures raising in 2 stacks, and you can sell stacks for a profit. The only tricky part is getting 12 non stacking hides back to Sandoria for tanning.

[ninvampire]

I would also suggest doing earth + lizard skin + cesti until you feel comfortable trying dhalmel leather. If you farm your own skin, you can even make some profit if your fame is pretty high in San d'Oria either by selling to the guild or a vendor.

My plan is this right now:

up to 21: Dhalmel Leather (21)
up to 24-25: Sandals (29)
up to 27-28: Parchment (31)
up to 35: Ram leather (35)

(#): denotes the skill-up cap on the items

[motoh]

I can make even more profit out of sheep wool, because I have clothcraft to make wool thread. ^^. I can almost supply Gobbiebag 1 completely, and a good bit of 2. I love it when crafts flow into each other.